Ravaging Times

December 15, 2011

Rumor: The Light Novel Affecting The Comic

Filed under: Ravages of Time — Tags: — merc @ 6:47 pm

Wang Yi Xing (“Wong Yi Hing”), supposedly a fellow creative in Chen Mou’s professional circle, has written 6 light novels so far of the Ravages series. He is officially endorsed by the publisher and professionally supported by Chen Mou. (note: nobody knows what kind of friendship they have; so far Mr. Chen has consistently praised Wang in articles/interviews, but also consistently mocked Wang in his art – or is it friendly ridicule between friends?)

It doesn’t look like he’s going to stop writing this “official” series. And as writing can go faster than drawing, he is outpacing Chen Mou’s plotting.

The rumor is that Wang’s writing is affecting Chen’s story. And now there’s fandom outrage. If the rumor is true, then they’re right to be upset: what amounts to be fanfiction is causing canon to accommodate.

I only read the first light novel (and hated it), which SPOILER apparently had Yuan Fang’s minions kill Zhang Fei’s entire family, with Yuan Fang present. By chapter 357 you might see why this rumor is making me nervous.

I want to read Mr. Chen’s Ravages and no one else’s. Have mercy.

A Chinese fan parody of this situation, changing the dialog of chapter 356 to depict the “possible” predicament of Mr. Chen (here as Sima Yi), in the face of Wang (here as Yang Xiu). A damn clever little piece. In the name of helping the artist, write some light novels to attract readers (of the book “Xiao Meng”), then eventually become the comic’s editor.

“You will be under my command.”

I won’t translate the whole parody for now, in case we’re just overreacting to the recent development of the light novel and the comic. Obviously we want Ravages to attract more and more readers from outside the comics circle, but we liked Ravages for a specific reason…

UPDATE: Dec. 21, 2011, according to the editor’s reply to reader badgering, Mr. Chen said Wang might’s well write his own version since writing can be done quicker than drawing, but the outcome still surprisingly resembles each other. The editor then teased us by saying, “you’ll know what I mean if you read to the end of the novel.”

Readers are dubious, saying it’s a ploy to get them to read the light novel.

UPDATE: Dec. 26, 2011, some credible sources say the editor has confirmed that certain editorial piece was done as a marketing ploy, not to be taken seriously. Mr. Chen insists he’s in full creative control of the story.



  1. I always thought that the light novels are some kind of remix to the original series and Mr. Chen would edit or at least take a look on what he has written.

    However, It appears that Mr.Chen gave him the original plot draft without supervising his work?
    Or is he agreeing on the spoilers thrown here and there?

    I’d like to think he disagrees. Let’s say he gave him the plot, but didn’t know the outcome of the novel, he’s a busy man himself.

    I didn’t have the heart to look at the spoiler, but having one in the first novel is kind of disturbing and discouraging too.
    Mind if I ask about the writing style?

    I hope this becomes a reason for the author to stop writing more, not that I have anything against him, but this type of novel is best written when the original work is done.

    Thanks Merc.


    Comment by Ray — December 15, 2011 @ 10:49 pm

    • Not sure how to describe his writing style. It’s okay language-wise (definitely more grammatically straightforward), but not having read any of his usual work, it seems like a bastardized version of “Chen speak” and maybe his own – I say that because he copied a lot from the comic. It did feel like a remix, but he also added things that were upsetting (like that spoiler).


      Comment by merc — December 16, 2011 @ 6:50 am

      • I’m glad then, I always wanted to check it out, but the language barrier is more than I can handle.
        Thanks again.


        Comment by Ray — December 16, 2011 @ 10:19 am

  2. Funny thing is, these novels are ruining whole plot in more than one way. I have read some parts from 殘兵, and it contains a lot of spoilers like, deaths of few characters which are supposed to happen in 10~20 years later.

    I understand if those novels are about the past, personal life of characters, but I don’t know why they let this guy handle(and ruin) future plot.


    Comment by Deceiver — December 16, 2011 @ 8:04 pm

  3. No need to worry. the 120 chapter of ROTK and no one has ever managed to remember each of the character name.

    for example, Cao Cao hated Yang Biao (Yang Xiu’s father) but for what reason? has any writer tried to decipher it? even the character Yang Xiu existed after the Pei Songzhi.

    question remaind\ed : is the 8th Genius of water Mirror would be :
    Xu Shu (Shan Fu) ? Lu Su? Cui Zhuoiping? Fa Zheng? or Chen Qun?

    who is Cui Zhuoping? the gang of Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong’s lazy friend (Just like the Seven sage of Bamboo’s gang of Ji Kang and Ruan Ji) and also the person who advised Liu Bei of world situation during his 1st visit to recruit Zhuge Liang? The teacher of Sima Wang who taught him of Eight Trigram formation to save Deng Ai from Jiang Wei’s rendition of Eight Trigram Iron Coiled Serpent?


    Comment by Por — December 22, 2011 @ 6:03 am

    • Yeah but his novels right now are about all characters with significant face time in the comic. Any “accommodation” by Mr. Chen, if any, will last a while in the comic pages.

      Similar to when Mr. Chen makes his own mistakes (in dialog or depiction, mostly forgiven because “it’s entertainment”, not historical documentary). They will taunt us until they’re “fixed”.


      Comment by merc — December 22, 2011 @ 6:55 am

  4. I wonder…. With regard to the spoiler part concerning the family of Zhang Fei… Aren’t his daughters supposed to be the wives of Liu Shan i.e. the empresses? Or is it another entire family in question? (Or does it mean that this part will be entirely omitted?)


    Comment by nokibanoogi — March 14, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

    • Well… I just don’t know what to make of the light novel. If that part is “canon” then yeah, he’ll have a new family in order to appease history. It’s not unreasonable, considering Liu Bei already got one of his sons killed.


      Comment by merc — March 15, 2012 @ 6:31 am

      • … and thus Zhang Fei has a reason to kidnap Xiahou Yuan’s niece/daughter in the forest. (Have to get a new family quickly, so… little girls will be OK.)


        Comment by nokibanoogi — March 16, 2012 @ 10:22 am

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